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Extremely really confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek blog post, that I didn't explain ... my poor In reply to spitfirebill: I included that point since when I had to locate a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go with each in every junkyard in South Jersey to locate one that wasn't sludged up actually badly.
Bernie: Which is a better van, while we're going to talk about a few concerns of these vans, yet I I'm clearly not going to come out and say one is better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're basically the very same lorry.
They seem to be a little bit much more utilized in that location, but, you know, those are several of the uses, yet they're essentially the exact same category of car. Mark: So, well, allow's begin with engines then. What issues do you see in between these two automobiles? Bernie: Yeah. So let's speak about engine and really simply to specify that the version years, we're mosting likely to begin with 2000 and up, you understand, I imply, these vans have actually been around for a long period of time.
And, you know, for a version of a Chevy van has been around since, you understand, around that time too. Given that 2000, I indicate, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s.
You understand, Fords, and many of them come with the Triton V8. There's a great deal of problems with these engines. In the earlier 2000 trigger plugs with strike to these engines, since they really did not have sufficient threading in the ignition system, which caused issues. And often that would certainly happen when you may be in a 15 passenger bus increasing a hillside with a lots of people and all of an abrupt boom, an ignition system pops out and you're stranded.
If you're buying anything from possibly 08 and more recent, you're not going to have that kind of spark plug issues. Other areas though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will certainly leakage, they'll establish coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold usually you need to change the whole point.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I need to claim in their favour, due to the fact that I'm speaking about issues, it's a more advanced engine. Overhead cam, so you're getting even more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is an easier layout with press rods.
They're just truly quite excellent, durable, strong engines. You recognize, being a van, obviously, you recognize, doing any kind of service on them is more challenging since you have actually reached eliminate that cover and enter maintenance in strange means. Things like stimulate plugs last a dreadful long time, so they don't need to be changed extremely frequently.
Mark: Can you buy these vans with diesel motor? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can't think about if we've ever done a Chevy, but Chevy, they're readily available from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have had diesels in them for a long time, like way back prior to the 2000 version year.
You recognize, that's still available. If you're a say, I don't know, I'm just going to claim a plumber and you have actually got like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're lugging a trailer behind it, that would certainly be an actually good usage of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it feels like the diesels are, they seem to have much less problems in vans than they perform in the trucks. Probably since they aren't worked so hard, yet when points happen, they're truly costly to deal with. We have actually got a whole lot of video clips and information concerning diesels, particularly the Fords.
You actually need to believe twice concerning obtaining a diesel in a van. And I will certainly claim, Chevy is pretty much restricted to V8 engines, however Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is a monstrous gas guzzling engine.
But if you're, and once more, we're just discussing kind of a straight, routine freight van below. The diesel definitely isn't the most effective option. Consider your objective, your use, just how much weight you're transporting and that'll aid you make the choice. Mark: What concerning the transmission et cetera of the drive train? Bernie: They're virtually equivalent.
One point that we have not discussed below is what sort of van. These vans are, and it depends on what version, they're offered ever from half load to one load framework and in fact some of the exploded view vans are really a lot more long lasting, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for claim the Fords.
Bernie: You know, I'm going to give the side to Ford on this one. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little less complex.
There's less steering affiliation involved in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, but it appears, and the Chevy's possibly last a little bit longer than the Fords, but the, you know, the guiding affiliation is much less complicated, so there's much less components and much less things to use out.
The adventure in a Ford is probably a bit much more truck like however I don't understand if you 'd actually ever really discovered a difference between the two. It seems like their parts are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy.
For one reason or another, they appear to last for one brake task. And then a great deal of times we take the brakes off and state, Oh, the dust boots torn, and so the caliper requires to be changed. I assume on a Ford and you can expect to spend a little bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to digress back before the 2000 model years, there were some Chevy vans that had actually poor doors. I mean, the moving doors were crap, you understand, truly severely built. In fact, I would certainly claim that if you are even looking at something older, it appears like Chevy and GMC vans really and their trucks generally actually took a jump ahead in quality around the 2000 design year, due to the fact that there was a great deal of stuff where the brakes for instance would certainly not last really long whatsoever.
But if we're considering the 2000 more recent, I imply, I 'd state they're both most likely virtually matching in quality, fit and finish, you recognize, some of the guest vans, naturally we'll have nicer visits than the freight vans. Yet I can't claim that one of them stands out to me a little bit more than the other.
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